Putting a bow on it

The first half is over after an epic 19-inning game — unfortunately a loss — and I think you’d have to be pretty happy if you’re a Red Sox fan.

This team has a terrific combination of veterans and young players right now, and everyone seems to be feeling good about themselves at the moment. Earlier in the half, the Red Sox couldn’t seem to get in any kind of groove. They’d win three, lose two, win four, lose two, win four, lose one, that type of thing.

But they’ve recently gone on a run that any contender goes on during the course of the season and that’s when you have the inner confidence to believe you’re going to win every night.

Here were the most pleasant developments of the first half:

Papelbon’s emergence:We all knew this guy was going to be something special from that first day he took the mound against the Twins on July 31, 2005. But who could know he would so swiftly rise to the point where he might be the best closer in baseball? The Red Sox have a great attitude right now, and that is that all they need to do is be winning a game going into the eighth inning and they are going to win.

Schilling’s
resurgence:
This is what Curt Schilling said following his last start of Spring Training — "I want to believe that physically I can be where I was, if not better,
because I feel like I’ve added some things, and mentally I’m better. Until you go out there and it counts, you can think
all you want. I’m human, so I want to see myself get it done, so that’s
probably where a lot of the nerves come from."

I think we can all agree that the nerves are gone, and so are the questions, both from Schilling and everyone else. Is he the dominant guy he was from 2001-2004? Not quite, but he’s not far off either. Is he still a guy you’d want to take the ball when something is on the line? No question about it. If Schilling can figure out how to limit his gopher balls, he might be even better in the second half.

Papi’s pop: Every year, you think to yourself, there’s no way this guy can be better than he was last year. And every year, he comes back better than he was the year before. How is that possible? Because David Ortiz has the gift that only the select best athletes in the world have, and that’s a burning desire to never let up and to constantly be adjusting and learning. Jimmie Foxx’s team record of 50 home runs is going down as logn as Papi stays healthy. And wouldn’t it be great drama to watch him go for 60?

Steady at the corners: Kevin Youkilis can flat-out play, both at the plate and in the field. But did anyone know what a consummate leadoff hitter he would be? Mike Lowell has been a breath of fresh air for this team. I can’t think of a bigger professional that i’ve ever seen on a daily basis. He defines the term "gamer". And as Kevin Millar said to me about Lowell back in May, "Holy doubles!". Yeah, the doubles keep booming off Lowell’s bat, and the home runs come every now and then also. Defensively, Lowell is Bill Mueller without the bad knees. Smooth and slick, always in position to make the play.

Kids are here to stay: Jon Lester, Manny Delcarmen and Craig Hansen can tell the Pawtucket equipment manager not to keep a locker fresh for them at McCoy. This trio is here to stay. Lester has shown rare poise — Papelbon-esque poise — for someone so young. Any team would take him as a fifth starter. Delcarmen is commanding his offspeed pitches, something he couldn’t do last year. Hansen is throwing his fastball with confidence and getting results even without his patented slider working.

Concerns: Not everything is rosy, even for a first place team. One issue that concerns me is Jason Varitek’s bat. Could all those years of wear and tear finally be slowing Varitek down at the plate? Or is it more a confidence issue. I’m thinking it’s more mental than physical, and that Varitek will have a strong finish, but we’ll see. Also, we’ve yet to see the real Coco Crisp — the guy who dominated for a month in Fort Myers. I know that it was only Spring Training, but Coco looked like a player who was going to do special things this year and we’ve seen no signs of that yet. Obviously the injury was a huge road block, so perhaps he’ll get stronger down the stretch. This team still does not have a fifth starter. Jason Johnson? Come on. I don’t think that is going to work. It’s hard to count on Clement right now both because of the way he pitched earlier this year and because of health issues. Before it’s all said and done, I believe Theo Epstein will find a fifth starter from outside the organization.

I’ll talk to everyone from Pittsbrugh. Thanks for all the great posts throughout the first half and spread word about the blog. We should double the readership in the second half. There’s a goal.

Thanks,

Ian.

156 Comments

Perfect summary Ian! I couldn’t agree more. But no mention of Manny Ramirez. He is also one of the key players on our team as he always has been. Is he doing as well as previously, no, but he still gives us homers, RBI’s and does it with that Manny style we love to see trot around those bases! But thank you for a great summary and for a great blog! Can’t wait for the All Star game to be over!!!

That’s exactly why I didn’t mention Manny. Because he is doing what he always does. I mentioned the things that have been noteworthy, either exceedingly good or bad. Manny has just been Manny and that’s a beautiful thing.

Nice AB. Loretta ended up flying out, but you can’t complain when he takes 12 pitches to do it. Thats about an inning worth of pitches.

Excellent sum up of our first half, Ian. Like Irish, I “can’t wait for the All Star game to be over” and done with. Just hope David doesn’t mess up his timing and health in that Home Run Derby braggin’ rights thing.

At the start of the season, Loretta wasn’t hitting and Gonzalez was just awful. An all new infield except Youk, who had previously played only third a few games (who knew he would hit so well and be able to earn the leadout spot while Coco was out and then keep it? And, who knew Kevin would play such a good defensive first base that he would render his backup, J.T. Snow, irrelevant?), and Loretta at second from the Padres and Lowell at third both coming off sub par career years, and Alex Gonzales ending up at short instead of perhaps Julio Lugo or some other available shortstop–I’m not sure even Theo knew who we’d eventually get to play there after trading both Renteria AND Hanley Ramirez. If we had gotten Dontrelle Willis, Boston may have had to change its name to the Boston Red Marlins.

I share the same reservations, Ian, on Varitek. I think both he AND Timlin were adversely affected by that World Championship Series, Classic?, whatever it was called. We had Beckett and several new relievers and rookies in spring training. Jason should have been in camp catching them and getting more swings. From time to time I’ve had to exercise a lot of restraint not to criticize his hitting–he’d homer or get a vital hit here and there, but not as dependable as he has in the past. Ignoring the righty-lefty-righty lineup–whose overly stressed significance–like who should be the leadoff man(only guaranteed to lead off in the first inning), I’ve been incredulous that Terry has not dropped Tek down further in the batting order. I know Francona is hyper-loyal to his players and fears a premature move by him will affect their self confidence, but it seems Tek should be behind Lowell, Kapler, and everyone except Crisp and Gonzalez–until his hitting returns to past form.

I agree with you, Ian, that Jason’s problem is probably more mental than physical. He swings at the first pitch almost every at bat if it is anywhere near the plate–a hint that he feels he needs as many swings as he can get to make contact. He swings and strikes out on terrible pitches outside the zone, and is a ****** for an up-the-ladder eye-high fastball on 2-strike counts.

Finally, I think I like this Coco hitting in the 8th spot, followed by Gonzalez, thing. A bunt by coco followed by a steal or a hit and run hit by Gonzalez…and we’re already into the run-scoring business before our leadoff man even gets to the plate. Not bad! Francona, again, drove me nuts yesterday by leaving Beckett in TOOOOOOOOOOOO LOOONNGG! If not now, Terry, I’m saying each batter…guy on first, guy on first and second, then bases loaded, for cripes sake, then when!!!??? Then I remember he stuck with Mark Belhorn and Johnny Damon in the 2004 ALCS when both were around 1 for 24. Mark won Game 6. Johnny won Game 7. Thank the Lord for David Ortiz, who merely carried everyone on his back through the first five games until Mark and Johnny showed up.

AND IN SPITE OF ALL THE JASON VARITEK JOKES AND INSULTS OVER ON THE INFERIOR M.F.BLOG, I WOULDN’T TRADE JASON FOR JORGE POSADA AND SEVERAL OTHER PLAYERS TO BE NAMED LATER.

Dan,
I am also kind of frustrated with Varitek. It seems at times that he’ll get 2 strikes on him and then just take a half-hearted swing. Almost as if he just wants to end the at-bat and get back in his gear. He definitely looks lost up there at times, and I think this upcoming break will be a good oppurtunity for him to take some hacks in the cage and work with Papa Jack. I’m expecting him to be better in the 2nd half.

You GO Schill! THIS is your All Star game in front of the manager who snubbed you and several players who WILL be going. Continuing our dominance over Contreras and stopping his 17-game winning streak would be another feather in your cap. He’s already up to 95 pitches, while Curt’s is still decent. I will shut up now, because we haven’t done it
yet…just gave up the per usual home run…followed by a strike out. IS KEN “HAWK” HARRELSON GETTING ON ANYBODY ELSE’S NERVES BY NOW!!!!!??????

SCHILLING JUST GOT THE THIRD OUT. HEY WHITESOX HOMER ANNOUNCER “HAWK”:

“HE GONE!!!!!”

“YOU GONE”!!!!

“THEY GONE”!!!!

“ALL GONE”!!!!!!

Where’s our patience at the plate today? Who could fault David for anything…but consider the game situation, man! Contreras is having control problems, throws three straight balls, had just walked Loretta, Manny up next, Jose up to 92 pitches, chance to get him out of the game, then swing at a 3-0? WHY!? Now, Nixon just swings at a 2-0. Pitch count over 100… Use you heads, guys.
Schilling still chillin’ though, through five. Looks like he saved one of his better outings for the very best time.

not that im complaining, but i cannot believe they brouoght him out again for the 6th, we should get some good at bats.

so much for that theory.

Dan,
That was a tough situation with Papi. They knew he would get a strike to hit, and its hard not to give him the green light with the way he’s been mashing lately. You can’t really fault Tito for that. Although it would have been nice to have Manny get up to the plate as well.

GOD IS GOOD. 3-2 THROUGH 6, ELLEN! CS JUST K’d THE DANGEROUS JERMAINE DYE WITH RUNNERS AT 3RD AND 1ST FOR THE THIRD OUT. IT WAS THIS INNING THAT SCHILLING GOT WINGED BY A BULLET OFF THE BAT OF JIM THOME. ALTHOUGH SCHILL HAS NOT THROWN TOO MANY PITCHES TO PITCH THE 7TH, HE MAY TIGHTEN UP ON THE BENCH AND NOT COME OUT AGAIN. THESE “OTHER SOX” ANNOUNCERS STILL HAVE NOT TOLD US EXACTLY WHERE CURT WAS STRUCK?

I’m with you, Blue. As I said, hard to blame David for anything. Without Ortiz, we’d be in third place behind Toronto. But the only game that counts is today’s game, and I just think he had visions of hitting yet another grand slam, another tater, 4 more rbis, more national adoration, than having his head into the game situation and what was best for the team. There is no more a team player than David. But that may have been a brain freeze.

Hey, Ellen, could I have a cold frosty one about now, please? As I thought, Curt could not go further, but what typical Schilling guts and adrenaline to hang in and finish his own mess in the sixth and preventing further damage.
Manny Delcarmen pitched a 1-2-3 7th, Ellen. Beautiful!NYY had a 5-0 lead over Tampa. They’re batting now top of ninth and trailing Tampa 5-6. Could this be our day? NEITHER “AIN’T” OVER, HOWEVER. NERRRRRRRRVVOOOS TIME!!!

Did everybody know we traded David Riske, who lost yesterday’s game, to the OTHER SOX in exchange for the young reliever Lopez, who came in the bases loaded, no one out, then struck out the ever dangerous Thome? Jim is 0-8 against Lopez. Hansen got outs 2 and 3 to end the mess Beckett left without allowing a run.

We didn’t score top 8th, still 3-2. Six outs to go. Who’s comin in now, Timlin? 8TH….Pap to close the 9th. TIGHT! TIGHT! GOOSE BUMPS!!!!! The excuse-making “Hawk” is blaming everybody except his own players for trailing. e.g. the umpire has a different strike zone for their pitchers than our pitchers. We’re getting all the good calls. They’re getting all the bad. Pooooooooooooooor baby!!!!

Delcarmen stayed to pitch a 2nd inning, Ellen. 6 batters. no BB. 2 strikeouts. No hits. No runs. No errors. No nothing. Youk leading off top 9th, top of our order. Come ON boys. We need insurance!

OTHER SOX throwing their closer Bobby Jenks in the 9th. They really want to pull this game out and avoid a sweep. Pap is UP in the bullpen. Jenks got us out with a double play for the last 2 outs.
HERE WE GO. BOTTOM 9TH. HERE COMES JONATHAN TO FACE THE HEART OF THEIR ORDER. FINGERS CROSSED. TAPPING FEET.

Jermaine Dye, I spit in your eye!!

THOME WHIFFS. TWO TO GO!
KONERKO FLIES TO COCO.

*******’ JERMAINE DYE HURTS US AGAIN. HOME RUN. 3-3. GETS CONTRERAS OFF THE FLOGGIN’ HOOK. STILL UNDEFEATED. HANG ON PAPS. A.J. JUST SINGLED. JOE CREDE UP TO BAT. CAN’T HARDLY STAND THIS, ELLEN. BE HAPPY YOU SAVED ALL THE WEAR AND TEAR ON YOUR NERVOUS SYSTEM.

CREDE FLIES OUT TO END INNING.

unfair as it is, especially after questioning him in an earlier at bat(if Ortiz HAD HAVE walked, we’d have just won 4-3), NEVERTHELESS….I’M GETTING THAT OLD FEELING….

IT’S PAPI TIME!!!

IT’S MANNY TIME!!!

IT’S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!!!

MANNY, TROT, TEK DOWN WITHOUT A WHIMPER. JENKS HAS RETIRED THEM, AS WELL AS DAVID, LORETTA, YOUK ON JUST 15 PITCHES! bottom of the tenth. I need a double shot of Jim Bean! hannnnngggggggg on Paps. One out. If necessary Jenks will go 1,2 more…as will Pap. Whether they can throw in the All Star game or not….who cares???
DEVIL RAYS JUST WHUPPED THE STINKIN’ YANKEES 6-5.

Now colorman the Hawk has his play-by-play cohort whining about virtually every pitch. How Papelbon is geting balls called strikes. What an awhole crew! If it’s that darn bad, why aren’t the Other Sox hitters or OZZIE giving the plate umpire L? HUH?!

Whites have a hit, a runner on with 2 out. 1-1 on Iguchi, who homered off Schill earlier. Just bounced out to Mike at 3rd to Youk. Hawk described it as a nice easy little bounce to Lowell. Friday night when Alex Rodriguez went 4 for 4 including 2 seeing eye singles, Hawk said Alex should go shower, then go out on the street looking for wallets. What a load, he is!

GOING TO 11TH. SPEAKING OF MIKE…HE JUST SINGLED THROUGH THE MIDDLE. GSR, HERE COMES WILLIE HARRIS TO RUN FOR LOWELL. LOOK OUT!!!!

COCO BUNTS HIM TO 2ND ON 1ST PITCH. WHY DIDN’T TERRY HAVE CRISP TAKE A PITCH OR TWO AND GIVE WILLIE A CHANCE TO STEAL 2ND, THEN FLOGGIN’ BUNT HARRIS TO THIRD!?!?!?

Loretta, you all-star!

WILLIE STEALS 3RD ANYWAY AS AGON WHIFFS.
YOUK GOES 3-2, FOULS OFF A COUPLE, THEN WALKS.

LORETTA UP. YOUK STEALS 2ND. HARRIS ON THIRD.

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYY!!! “COME THROUGH” LORETTA COOOOMMMEEES THROUGH, AGAIN WITH A CRUCIAL HEART-THUMPING HIT. WILLIE SCORES, 4-3, AND THANKS TO HIS DEFENSIVE INDIFFERENCE STEAL OF 2ND, YOUK COMES AROUND AND SCORES, TOO. 5-3. out goes jenks. who cares now. he gave us the runs he needed.

By the way, Ellen, when Youk was at bat, Sox fans starting chanting “Youk”! “Youk”! just like they do in Boston, forcing OTHER SOX fickle fair weather fans to start their own chants to try to drown ours out. LORD, I’M LOVIN’ IT RIGHT NOW. WILL IT BE PAP, AGAIN, IN THE BOTTOM OF THE 11TH. SHUT ‘EM DOWN. SON!!!!

WHOOPS. ONLY 2 OUTS, AND THAT’S WHEN WE DO OUR DAMAGE. DAVID WALKS, PUSHING MARK TO 2ND. MANNY GOES 3-2. WHIFFS. HE GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
guess who’s up, same ones JON came in in the 9th to face, Thome, Konerko, and the ******* floggin Jerm Dye. At least we have a 2-run lead now vs a 1-run lead in 9th

PAPS IS OUT. JAVIER LOPEZ, WHO K’d Thome yesterday, is now in to face Thome.

THOME DOUBLES, WHICH MEANS HE HIT THE BALL ION A REAL GOOD PLACE, BECAUSE IT TAKES HIM A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO GET TO SECOND. THAT WAS JAVIER’S JOB. GET THOME OUT. FAILING TO DO THAT, NOW LOPEZ IS OUT. TYING RUN WILL ALWAYS COME TO BAT UNTIL WE GET5 3 OUT.

OKAY, TIMLIN IN, MY MAN. WE GOT A REAL GOOD SHOT OF WINNING IT NOW!

SIT ‘EM DOWN, MIKE!!!!

konerko singles, Manny can’t reach it, runners at corners, 0 outs. OH, MY! OH, MY! the scary dude, dye, is up….

OH, LORD, DYE DOUBLES, RUNNERS 2ND AND 3RD, ONE RUN IN, 5-4, WALK AJ, crede up, sacks full, o outs, infield in…..

why didn’t they leave Paps in for the 10th? just a gut feeling, but methinks he could’ve held it together.

CREDE FLIES OUT TO TROT. NO TAG AT THIRD. ONE OUT.
CINTRON GROUNDS INTO FORCE OUT AT 2ND. RUNNER SCORES FROM 3RD. GAME TIED 5-5. TIMLIN WHIFFS PH FOR THIRD OUT.

HOW OFTEN ARE WE EVER LIKELY TO SEE PAP NOT GET THE JOB DONE. LOPEZ NOT GET THE JOB DONE. AND, ESPECIALLY, MIKE TIMLIN–OLD FAITHFUL–NOT GET THE JOB DONE.

TIED 5-5. ON TO THE TOP OF THE 12TH. MAN!!!! WHAT A GAME!

trot fans, for cripes sake, Ellen, for 1st out. he’s o-for-six today.
However, Varitek just had an offensive explosion for us….he walked.

Cora smacks one, but caught in left with sun in his eyes. 2 out. Tek at 1st.

coco up. come on, man!!! don’t want to go into the bottom tied, the kind of pitching we’ve been getting.

COCO STILL UP. TEK TAKES

2ND. CRISP FLIES TO DEEEEEPPP CENTER FIELD…BUT CAUGHT. DADGUMMIT THE GOGGLESCHMIDT FLOGGINFLOTSMOTHSVILLE SUNUVAGUN!!!!! IT’S HOLD ONTO YOUR BLADDER TIME AGAIN.JEEEZZZZ!!!!! HELP!!!

CRAIG HANSEN IN. HOLD EM YOUNG FELLOW. PITCH THE LIGHTS OUT. PLEASE!!!!!!!

Pod bloops way on 1st base. Crowdn doing that corny “we will, we will rock you ” ****. 2-2 ON iGUCHI WHO COULDN’T BUNT POD TO 2ND. The little ****** just whiffed. 1 out. thome up. hold on to your seats. 2-0 now. don’t set it up, Hansen. GREAT JOB, SON, THOME FLIES OUT!!!HE GONE! 2 OUT. COME ON CRAIG, BUDDY, ONE MORE. CORA IS AT 3RD NOW FOR LOWELL. PODS SNOT STEALS 2ND. ALL THEY NEED IS A WELL PLACE SINGLE. 1-1 TO GLOAD, WHOEVER HE IS? OH, ROSS GLOAD REPLACED KONERKO AT 1ST.
FULL COUNT ON GLOAD. DYE UP NEXT. LET’S END IT NOW, CRAIG!!!!! FOULED OFF. APPARENTLY SUN IS IN HITTERS FACES. HERE WE GO AGAIN….

oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. s-t-r-u-c-k h-i-m o-u-t!!

BLESS YOUR LITTLE ROOKIE HEART, CRAIG HANSEN. ON TO THE 13TH. HEY, FOR AN OLDER MAN, MY HEART CAN’T BE IN TOO BAD SHAPE TO HAVE SURVIVED THIS STRESS SO FAR. AGON UP TO LEAD OFF.

Tavarez in…time to get the mylanta.

AGON DOUBLES. YOUKILIS FANS, CHEEESEUZZZZZZZZZZZZ, KEVIN. NO SACRIFICE, NO HIT TO THE RIGHT SIDE TO MOVE THE RUNNER ALONG. NO LONG FLY TO MOVE AGON TO THIRD. A FLOGGIN’STRIKE OUT, KEVIN. CHEEEEEEEEEEZZZZUSSSSSSSSSSSS!
JAVIER VAZQUEZ HITS LORETTA. AGON 2ND, MARK 1st.

GUESS WHO THE FLIPPING COMING TO THE PLATE BATTER IS:

WHY IT’S DAAAVVVVIIIDDDD ORTISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! heard of pepsi time? well IT’S ortiz time. ooppps. a mighty grounder for the second out. nice goin’, David, don’t any of you guys want to end this game? Of course, they walk Manny to load the bases.

Okay, Ellen, your o-for-6 Trot is up, again. Can he do it? LLLLLLLLLLL NO!!!! FANS ON 5 STINKIN’ PITCHES. COME ON, NOW! AGON AND LORETTA GET ON WITH ONE OUT…AND NEITHER ORTIZ OR NIXON CAN DO SCHIT!!!

WE’RE GOING TO RUN OUT OF PITCHERS SOON. DYE UP AGAIN, THE PAIN IN THE BUTT. THERE ARE SOME REAL DARK CLOUDS HOVERING OVER MY HEAD RIGHT NOW.

TAVERAS IS IN. GOD HELP US!!! BECAUSE WE DON’T GET TO BAT AGAIN…

Trot, 0 for 7, with 3 K’s. Of all times to leave him in to face a lefty with Kapler on the bench…sheesh

‘Tek is trying to reach the Mendoza line during this game

COME ON, JULIAN! MY FELLOW POSTERS NEVER MEANT THOSE ROTTEN, NASTY THINGS THEY SAID ABOUT YOU, OUR SO VEEERRRYYYY GOOD TRUSTED CAPABLE KIGHTS OUT FRIEND, CAN’T YOU TAKE A JOKE, MAN?!!!
OH, LORDY ME, TAV JUST STRUCK OUT JERMAINE DYE. OUT 1.

OH, OH,OH…2 OUTS!!!

my. my. my. my, my JULIE SET EM DOWN 1-2-3. God’s still in his heaven. JULIE HAS GOTTEN US TO A 14TH INNING.

thank you! THANK YOU! JULIAN TAVAREZ. WE KNEW YOU COULD DO IT. WE NEVER DOUBTED YOU. WE’LL NEVER QUESTION YOU AGAIN.

WHO THE HECK IS THIS mATT tHORNTON GUY? We can’t get a loud foul off him. as i type that, Coco just doubled off him. I have a feeling if we don’t score this inning, we’re going to lose. A bad feeling. Well Coco’s hit got Thornton out of there. Tough reliever comin’ in, Brandon McCarthy. 0-2 now on Gonzo. Wouldn’t Alex be the favorite dude to di it? huh” 1-2. Well, as the **** bag sez, HE GONE. THUMP…THUMP…THUMP…THUMP…just my heart echoing off the keyboard. By the way, Ellen, I “ain’t goin’ ever ever ever do this game account for you again. It’s too taxing!!!

JULIAN BACK FOR A 2ND. GO, TAV, WE STILL LOVE YOU AS MUCH AS BEFORE. YOU CAN DO IT. (THIS CLOUD GETTING DARKER AND DARKER, I’M SCARED, FOLKS, BUT I DIDN’T WANT TO SAY THAT WITHIN EARSHOT OF JULIE. HE’S SO SENSITIVE, YOU KNOW.)

UNFLACKIN’BELIEVABLE. julian set em doen 1-2-3 again. However this game ends, everyone of us should kiss both Hansen AND Tavarez on the hat the next time we see them.
CHEEEZZZZZEEEE US, WHAT A GREAT GAME!!!!!!!!!

on to the 15th? TOP OF THE ORDER. GET IT DONE YOURSELVES. I’M TIRED!~!!!

2 OUTS. ortiz time again. come on, David, I can’t take this anymore. oh, fudge. who we gonna pitch now? TAV again, can u believe it. I missed the 14th, top and bottom. I couldn’t wait any longer to go out and feed my wild birds, mostly sparrows and pidgeons, before nightfall.
ON TO THE BOTTOM. MANNY, TROT, TEK. ANY OF YOU GUYS FEEL FREE TO WIN THIS DAM GAME–MANNY JUST FLEW OUT, BUT COULD ONE OF YOU FOLLOWING TIGHTEN UP YOUR JOCK A NOTCH, GET IN THIS GAME AND DO SOMETHING. way to go trottie, ground out, 0-8. Remember when u were hitting over.300, nixon, u’r jeopardizing that. Now, out goes Varitek. Lord help us…

On to bottom 16th…who we gonna’ pitch. probably not a 4th inning for Julian????

Ian:

Way to predict the nine-innings. As of this writing, we’re in the bottom of 16th.

Can Tavarez keep up?

*Make that Top of 17th.

Ian: what’s the longest game (in terms of innings) in Red Sox history? and what’s the longest game (in innings) in the majors this year?

TAV OUT AGAIN. STRIKES DYE OUT A SECOND TIME. SOFY POP FLT TO CRISP. TWO DOWN! THIS IS WHY WE GOT HIM, ALONG WITH SEANEZ. WHAT A CLUTCH TIME TO COME THRU!!
CREDE DOUBLES. ONE MORE JULIE!!! ANNNDDDDDDDDDDDDD HE GETS IT. 4 innings, 50 pitches, 0 runs, 1 hit, 1 BB, 2K. GO AHEAD AND ISS HIM SOMEWHERE ELSE IF U LIKE! ON TO THE 17TH. TROT 0/8 TEK 0/7. 2 OUTS ALREADY. MCCARTHY STILL EFFECTIVE, APPROACHING 30 PITCHES. THINK AGON’UO AGAIN.

alex walks. youk up with no hits but 4 walks. approaching ORTIZ TIME AGAIN, BUT IT HAS TO BE NOW, HE MAY NOW GET ANOTHER CHANCE CAUSE THERE MAY NOT BE AN 18TH. YOUK OUT. BULLSPITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!

Julian Tavarez, you brought it today. Thats some clutch pitching.

How much says Rudy Seanez won’t be wearing a red “B” on his cap next week?

I spoke too soon…and I’m glad i did.
Dan, thanks for holdin it down here with me today.

hi gthis game is still on!

nice job be Julian!

seanez pitched a scorless inning!

Speaking of Seanez, here comes root-toot Rudy. Off to his usual bad start, single, 2-0 on Pod Snot. 3-0. Let’s try the same malarkey we tried on Julie.
Come on, RUDY. WE LOVE YOU MAN. YOU CAN DO IT. WALKED POD SNOT. 1ST AND 2ND AND 0 OUTS. THERE’S NO ONE LEFT IN OUR BULLPEN, FOLKS. THIS IS IT. IF WE GET OUT OF THIS MESS, WE’LL HAVE TO STICK WITH SEANEZ–WE LOVE YA’ RUDY!!!!–OR USE A STARTER.

tadahotdeeguchi trying to bunt. yikkkeeeeesss. He pops up. one out. runners stay. YOU CAN DOOOOOOOOO EETTTTTTTTT, RUDY!!! GO GUY!!!! Pablo Ozuna grounds into double play. Cora touches 3rd for the force, throws to 1st for the out. I NEVER DOUBTED YOU RUDY, MY MAN(YOU SEE, GUYS, IT’S WORKING. I STARTED TO PRAISE HIM WITH 2 ON, O OUTS. 5 HOURS 46 MINUTES. ON TO THE 18TH.

OLD FAITHFUL LORETTA SINGLES TO LEAD OFF. AND, IT’S ORTIZ TIME AGAIN, AGAIN, AGAIN, AGAIN, SOUNDS LIKE A STUCK RECORD….AGAIN, AGAIN–AND HITS INTO A DOUBLE PLAY, 1/7, 2 WALKS, 1 RBI.

3-2 ON MANNY, MCCARTHY UP TO 54 PITCHES, AND WAHT? 4TH, 5TH inning…..and manny just trickled out. on to the bottom. come on rudy, you da man, man. (Don’t end NOW, but cripes is this game ever going to end!!??) I think it will take a tater from someone. Dye up….AGAIN!!!!! Hold on to your thing!!!!!

Does anyone know our pitcher’s status? (The people that can still pitch, that is)…

no one is left i the pen

I would think either wakefield, lester or beckett would be next out.

yeah wake is hurt though.

*exhausted* either way, I’m glad that this one is over… *sighs of relief*…

Hard one to swallow, but this had to end.

A.J. THE A.H. JUST BIT THE DUST SWINGING. RUDY, YOU’RE THE GREATEST PITCHER WHO EVER LIVED, MAN!!!I MEAN IT!!!REALLY!!!(I can’t believeit. It’s working on both Julie AND rudy. Between Delcarmen, Hansen, julie, Rudy, we’ve gotten 9 innings of shutout ball,
on to the 19th–over 6 hours now. i’m numb! i.m numb. i can’t move my…….

YIPPEEEEE, TROT AND TEK ARE UP AGAIN. PLEASE YOU HITLESS WONDERS. JUST GIVE YOURSELVES UP. STAND IN FRONT OF THE PLATE. LET ‘EM HIT YOU…..4 TIMES. TROT DIDN’T LISTEN. NOW O/9 AFTER FANNING, AGAIN. YOU KNOW THEIR OUGHT TO BE SOMETHING IN THEIR PLAYERS’ UNION CONTRACT THAT SAYS THAT YOUR MANAGER CANNOT SEND YOU BACK OUT TO THE PLATE AGAIN IF YOU’RE 0/10. CLIFF POLITTE IN NOW FOR OTHER SOX. TEK MUST’VE GONE DOWN…AND CORA JUST FLEW OUT TO DEEP, DEEP RIGHT FIELD. DYE MANAGED TO BRING IT IN. NADA. ON TO BOTTOM 19TH.

here come rudy for a 3rd inning. YOU’RE THE GREATEST RUDY!!! YOU DA MAN, MAN MAN!!! pop up. one out. can we, dare we? YES! BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BEST PITCHER IN BASEBALL, OUR RUDY SEANEZ!!!YEAH. OKAY RUDY. THEY GOT LUCKY. ONE ON. ONE OUT!!

That was Cintron. Rob Mackowiak up. He squibbs a base hit. 1st and 2nd, 1 out. PODS SNOT UP AGAIN. SINGLES. BASES LOADED. WE NEED A DP..K..POP UP. WE’RE IN REAALLL DEEP DOO-DOO NOW, MY FRIENDS. YOU KNOW IF WE LOSE THIS, I THINK I SHOULD STILL GET A “HOLD”, ELLEN.

NOW THE NUMBNUDTZ IN CHICAGO ARE DOING THE “DAYYYYY-OOOHHHHHH” AND I’M DOING THE OHHHHHHHHHH schitttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!

IGUCHI SINGLES IN THE WINNING RUN…AND THE WRONG SOX LOSE 5-6. WHAT A DOWNER. BUT GREAT JOBS DONE BY A FLOCK OF BULLPEN GUYS. REALLY.

ONE LAST GOOD THING….IT’S OVER!!!!!!!!!!

It’ll take 3 days to rest up for the 2nd half after this 6 hours-plus game. Wonder if ANY color uniform SOX player or manager is reved up to go to Pittsburgh and use their three days off now to play an all star game.
I’ve heard around the posts that Tampa Bay has our # this year, but taint so. We’re 8-6 against them this year. Actually, it’s been the NYY’s # they’ve had in 2004 and 2005. The Devil Rays whupped em’ 12 games last year out of either 18 or 19. So NYY were either 6 or 7-12 against them in 2005. Prior to ’04 I accused TB of being a Yankee farm team, NYY beat up on them so badly. Plus Steinbrenner lives tbere, you know. Kazmir and the rest retreated into their shells like a turtle this weekend, as I predicted. Kazmir, pitches good against the NYY, but he pitches great against us. The Blue Jays have been our TB the past 2 years.

Our records against other teams in our own AL East the first half this year:

BALTIMORE 8-1

TAMPA BAY 8-6

new york 5-5

TORONTO 4-7

TOTAL 25-19

Bring on the second half! I could care less about the home run derby or the all star game.

If you’d like to revisit the career of Yankee old timer star and announcer Phil “The Scooter” Rizzuto, there’s a post near the end of comments on Ian’s last blog posting.

IAn,
and they can get rid of jason Johnson he is a joke even Rudy Seanez is better then him and Julian tavarez you got to be bad to be worse then them!

19 inning heartbreaker, but sounds like the bullpen stepped up which is refreshing going into the break. can’t wait for the second half of the season, hopefull we keep with the 7 o’clock games (8 in the morning here) cause these afternoon games (2 or 3 in the morning) are really tough to watch…Great read Ian.

Wow, a double header in one game. Honestly, I can’t feel too bad about the Red Sox losing this game. They leave Chicago having taken 2 our of 3 from one of this year’s best teams so far and the defending World Series champs.

I thought they might leave Papelbon in for another inning; I can only assume they would have if he weren’t going to the All-Star Game.

Hey Daniel, I have a little Yogi/Scooter story for you. A friend of mine was at an event at the Hall of Fame and waited in line to get Yogi’s autograph. While Yogi was signing his baseball card, my friend mentioned that Scooter was there as well. “Rizutto?” said Yogi, “That son of a bit** still owes me 40 bucks!”

See you all in the second half of the season!

Squid I know those are hard.

6-5 is no whooping, and tampa did not own us in ’04. We won that season series, ’05 is and was the only year that tampa won the season series against the yankees.

Not to mention in every way possible posada is having a better year than tek so ud be gracious to even get him straight up, and if that happened we would be getting screwed. Posada catches all 5 pitchers has had an automatic arm at throwing out runners since pena signed on, and has better offensive stats all the way around

You could have made your post more useful jesser by clarifying whether your Yankees dropped 12 out of 18(6-12) or 12 of 19 (7-12), to Tampa Bay last year.

This year you are 6-2, with 10 games left with them. You may manage an 11-7. I don’t have access to your 2004 record against them, do you? What I remember most vividly from 2004 was that the Boston Red Sox whupped your New York Yankees 4-3 in the ALCS, sending yeez home and jump starting us to go on and sweep the 2004 World Series against the St. Louis Cardinals. Remember that, jesser? Oh, I know you do…and will for a long, long time. I also remember that with all your winning over all the years, and all our losing, no one has EVER come back to sweep US in a seven game series AFTER we were UP 3-0. If fact, that has never happened to any team in baseball’s long history…other than your New York Yankees. Not ONLY were you humiliatingly defeated, but your give up guys outright QUIT during the sixth game. You could see the expressions on Little Jesus’ and other players faces as the television cameras panned your dugout after Mark Belhorn cranked that sixth game homer off yeez. You could almost read their minds…”we can’t beat these people!” Then Damon and Ortiz lit your pitching up like a firecracker in game seven, after which the Red Sox players and entourage celebrated on your sacred Yankee Stadium turf in the House That Ex-Red Sox built. Much like what the Florida Marlins did, took them only 6, in 2003. Have the scary Rally Monkies, who have owned you, done the same in either of the latest two occasions THEY have dropped you? Jeez. I can’t be expected to remember EVERY team who have whupped you in the 21st century…and when!?, jesser.

So, when Tampa Bay came back from an 0-5 deficit today (yeez had ‘em, for criminey sakes, 0-5) to beat you 6-5, they whupped yeez, jesser. They BEAT you 6-5. That’s what getting whupped means…getting beaten. If you are EVER able to eliminate US in another playoff series, then we’ll talk. Until then, you know.

Finally, you know very well that Posada did NOT catch Randy Johnson last year. You had a second catcher who was there for little else. In fact, when we picked him up in spring training and told him he would be catching Wakefield, he quit!!! Was that Randy’s choice that Jorge not catch him? I’ve heard that may’ve been the case, but I don’t know. Besides, Posada has missed more games I would think than Varitek(sitting out Wakefield games) this year due to a boobie here and a boobie there–but mostly for his inability to be able to protect himself from getting struck in the nose while playing a simple pregame game of catch. What is that now for Jorge getting hit in the nose and breaking it playing a game of catch, twice? What is he stupid or attention deficit???? As you well know, Posada has been playing above his head this season–only half over, in fact, while Varitek is having one of his worst. That could all change come Oct. 1. Should the disparity remain at that time…or should the NYY win their umpteenth AL EAST pennant(albeit without a World Series in the 21st Century), then come on back at that time and talk to me. Until then, jesser, you rather bore me, small fry, as you almost always do.

Daniel my dear friend and commentator, Thank you for the nearly play by play, reading your posts, it was just like watching the game live, ALMOST. Toward the end of the game a not so regular came in and played the song from Fever Pitch( (the one about Tessie/ McGreevey) what I consider a fine Boston Fight/Victory song. Now he didn’t know about the game, or that I was a Sox fan nor did I know he is one. I heard the song and KNEW that it was a sign, less than 10 minutes later it was over. But I have to say that we seriously can’t be that upset that we lost this game; come on 19 innings. These guys just played a doubleheader with no break in between;walking corpses. I am VERY disappointed that Trot couldn’t contribute at the plate. But who expected him (other than me) to be hitting over .300 (slightly) at the break. Maybe the rest over the break will give him a fresh start. I still think he’s just so hard working.
I,too, am worried about Tek, he just seems so stiff at the plate. He’s never looked like the most relaxed Sox at bat, but this year it just seems like something is really eating at him.

I’m really contemplating downloading the game and watching it (when I have about 7 hrs with nothing in the way, like maybe 2008).

Again, Daniel and all who also helped with the commentary, thanks so much. I really would like to be home on Sundays to watch the games but, if I don’t pay the light bill, I can’t atch the games can I??

Ian, great closing thoughts on the 1st half.

From what I hear our old beat up boy Julian did more than OK today. Thank you Julian for slowly but surely proving me wrong, (one of the few times I’ll ever like being proven wrong; I don’t know how many times I’ve begged him to show me the err of my ways)

I read in Ian’s recap that Schill thinks he’ll be ready for his next start.

So glad for the guys that most of them are off til Thursday. Oakland coming in (see how cleanly I skipped right over the ASG, aka the t-ball tourney), should be interesting as this is our 1st matchup with the left coast part of our league.

Ian don’t you think that the extra hustle (running a whole lot more and seemingly faster) that Manny is putting into his O and D is noteworthy, I do. He just seems to care a little more about it this year, especially in the last month or so.

I’m really sorry that I ran on tonight, but it WAS a LOOOONNNNGGG game and I did just get home 15 minutes before my post. If there is anyone still out ther , I’ll be awake for a little while yet. THANK YOU NATIONERS (MY SUMMER FAMILY) for fillign in all the many gaps as ESPN didn’t do much with us at all today. Post later. ec

DANIELFAGAN, PLAY NICE!!!! Come on now when we’re on our playground we should be nice.

I’m just being the REDSOX hall monitor/crossing guard/den mother.. Oh you boys!!!!!

Hey all. I really missed checking in on the posts this weekend. Hopefully I’ll have a tech at my house this week to fix my computer.

Couple of points that have already been hit on:

Chicago announcers are complete homers. I had to mute half the game yesterday. They were complaining from the 1st at bat of the game yesterday when Youk walked to lead off. Then in the bottom half of the 1st they go at it again: “I guess this ump doesn’t feel like calling that for Jose, but will call them for Schilling.” Most unprofessional announcers in the league. I guess their pretty consistant off the air though, because I had the NESN feed on Friday night and Remy was saying that he talked to Harrelson and according to Harrelson they might as well not even finish playing the rest of the year because the White Sox are going all the way.

Good points on the 1st half recap Ian. I had a few of my own that really made me appreciate the standings at the break.

Say if I told you that Damon’s replacement was going to miss 46 games, then come back and barely be hitting over .250. Then I told you that we would have no 4 or 5 starter due to injury and incompetance (Clement). We basically held our breath every 4th and 5th day praying for a win. Then I told you that our 2 new middle infielders would barely be hitting over .200 after the first month of the season and Tek would only be over .250 for maybe a week or so. Then I said Keith Foulke, (while ineffective last year and certainly a question mark coming in this year) would lose his closer’s job after game 1 and (until this past week.) our 2 high priced bullpen aquisitions would be basically useless. (On a side note, great job by Tavarez this road trip. 3 innings in Florida on game, 4 solid yesterday, could be turning it on???) Let’s also say that we played 11 games vs. Toronto (who absolutely own us) and had the toughest 1st half schedule in baseball according to ESPN.

If I told you all that, I don’t think anyone would think that the Sox would be 3 up by now.

Now we have Schill, Beckett, Wake, Lester and pray for rain. Instead of waiting until August to get the young guys experience, Hansen, Delcarmen, and Lopez have already performed in high pressure situations. This is so big for the 2nd half! How about Saturday’s performance with the bases loaded and Thome, Konerko and Dye coming up? Great job by Lopez and Hansen.

Yesterday was a tough way to end the 1st half. Still don’t know why Youk wasn’t bunting when A-Gon lead off the 14th (or was it the 13th, or maybe the 15th, or was it the 16th……?) with a double. Don’t understand that one. We were lucky Seanez kept it going that long. That 2nd hit was a bleeder, but he was out of position after delivering the ball. If he didn’t fall over he could have fielded it.

I hope the break does Wake’s back some good. Papelbon is probably tearing what few hair he has on his head out right now just killing to get back on the mound and make up for yesterday. Kid is still a stud. He wasn’t the only one to give up a bomb to Dye this weekend.

gosoxred:

Very good point about all of the stuff that has gone wrong, yet the Sox still lead the division.

I’m not a big fan of bunting runners from second to third. Once a runner is at second, he’s already consider “in scoring position.” Sure, a base hit doesn’t necessarily score the run, but I see much less advantage in bunting a guy from second to third than there is in getting him from first to second. Not only that, but with Youk’s OBP, it would seem like throwing away an out to have him bunt.

Papelbon is still the man, although his ERA has “ballooned” to 0.59 after last night.

Good heavens, can someone give daniel fagan his Ritalin?

Ian, it’s all your fault, you know, for that “nine innings left” comment.

Very good first half. Let’s make the second half even better.

Daniel,

Dont just pick and choose your history. Yes, the yankees blew a 3-0 lead. So what. We did not lose a game by letting a little dribbler roll under their b.a.l.l.s. We did not blow a 15 game lead. We did not lose a game by letting a tired pitcher blow a huge lead. We gave the rocket in 2 years what you couldn’t in like 15 years.

And may be you do not know abt the law of averages. The more often you are in the world series, the higher the number of wins and losses. May be you do not know that because the redsox make it to the series like once in a lifetime.

And you know what, you should be less than 5 yrs old to be able to see another redsox team win a championship in your lifetime.

And its not like you are the current world series champinos. And if one considers the past record what is it? 26-1. Wow.

or 26-6 or whatever. Still no worse that 4:1 ratio over a century. That should be pretty s.h.i.t.t.y. To be on the receiving end three out of four years. I understand why you make a big deal the one year that is yours.

I agree with your point about scoring position robnbetsy. My thought is that Youk has been struggling BIG time and just to get him to 3rd so a fly ball would get a run. Oh well, 4 losses this week and the Yanks only won on one of those days.
Ian mentioned that he thinks the Sox will go outside the organization to get that 5th starter. Any inside info you can share, Ian?

No way the A’s trade Zito since they are in the lead in the West.

Schmidt isn’t going anywhere with the NL West being as tight as it is.

The Marlins look like they can be real good in the next few years with all this young talent, so I doubt Willis is available.

I’d love to think that there could be an answer out there, I just don’t know who it could be.

Anyone have any thoughts on the wish list?

I’d love it if someone agreed to take a prospect and a $9 million pitcher on DL and pay all of his salary to give up a number 1 or 2 guy, but that will not happen, so who has the best “wish list”?

By the way, Does anyone ever think that Kerry Wood and Mark Prior will spend more than 1 month at the same time not on DL? (Off-Season doesn’t count)

Daniel , if you ever brought up a good point to me I may stop responding to you, on this post or the next, if you can’t act your age, then i suppose i will have to.
It was 12 of 19, not 18, we play 19 games against all of our division, just like you do.

In 2004 the yankees went 15-4 against tampa, so where you say they have dominated us over the last 2 years (28-18 in that time) is beyond me. Why don’t you concentrate on your bluejays before you speak. I am pleased to see you can remember two years ago, seeing as you do not seem to remember anything from the past 97 years besides that, though you do seem to remember many yankee moments.

You seem to forget pointing out 2003, where our trade deadling 200 hitting 2nd baseman hit your most dominant pitcher out of the park to “whoop” you in 7 games…oh yeah, and your best pitcher blew it, what a nice combo. So I’ll talk to you whenever you please considering the yankees have the head to head regular season record, playoff record and series wins over the redsox, perhaps you should question next time you would like to speak to me.

I actually know very well that posada did not catch johnson for a few starts and flaherty did but then they switched and Posada was still completely capable of catching him, he did not let three passed balls get by him in one inning. And yes, it was Johnson’s decision, not Posada’s and not because of mental and physical inadaquacies. Not to mention, what I also know is flaherty was competing with a job for josh bard (another failure) and publically said he was too old to desire a competition for a backup job and that he DID NOT want to end his career on the redsox after he achieved his boyhood dream of playing on the yankees. THAT was not an interview from the yes network either, though he did also confirm it there, so once again, do your research.

Oh yeah, and while your there you may realize this is not even one of the top three seasons for jorge Posada, this is not a career year, it’s like saying mike lowell is overachieving, Posada was a 300 hitter with a minimum of 20 hrs for for four or five years. Tek is getting older faster, just accept it.

Wanna talk about sweeps and comebacks?

In my lifetime, and granted I am not a middle aged man like you are, but much younger, I have seen the yankees come back from 0-2 in a WORLD SERIES and win in six games, I have then seen them sweep their next two world series appearences in the next three years (those three wins alone will send you back to 1917) then the following year during a dynasty (something you weren’t ever alive to see from your team) winning the first two games to complete a string of 14 consecutive WORLD SERIES victories. Now, who’s streak is more impressive? Don’t lecture me on world series sweeps or impressive playoff runs because I have unlimited artillery to take you out. Btw, after the string was broken they went on to win the final two games and beat the mets in 5 games (A Team you seemed to fail to beat and it was my fourth witnessed ring, thats two less than your entire team’s existance. Look no further than 1977 to complete all six).

Yes, I have also seen my team in the world series six times, losing the most recent two, but guess what, 4 out of 6, i’ll take that winning percentage, much like I would take 26 out of just south of 40, rather than 6 out of whatever your percentage is. It should be enough just to realize we have won double the world series, as you have pennants. Yet you once called me pathetic. Maybe you were reading somebody elses mind, but i’m pretty sure a team that just beat you three times and once by 11 runs, did not think you guys were unbeatable, they simply ran kevin brown on the mound for game 7.

Florida Marlins, you really want to bash that franchise? They have two rings in less than 10 years, and less than 20 years of existance, contemporarily they are more successful than YOU are. They are also 2 for 2 in the ws. One thing when you win so much you will learn to do is let an off year go, 2004 and 2003 were let go because I have seen four years of ultimate success, though you should be used to letting years go, btw name me another team that has four titles in the last 19 years (my tenure of existance).

You could almost say the Braves, but we bludgeoned them twice to prevent that.

Hopefully you have stepped off your high horse by now, and when the redsox lead in the 9th with “god” on the mound, then is that also considered a whooping? When he blew it? and then proceeded to have your other “most reliable reliever” blow it again? At least our number 5 starter, something you also don’t have was the one to blow it.

A few more sidenotes: Posada broke it once during practice (at least he didnt tear all his “cls” and miss a season while trotting around the bases: enter Gabe Kapler.)The year 2000 is part of the 21st century (when you remove 19 from the first two digits, that means a new century has begun so when that first zero from the left in 2000 becomes a 1, a new century has begun again, now i’m glad we have established our year following skills!) So actually they both have one title and the yankees have three appearences, yeah, um, still more successful. In fact, 1980’s aside, we have been more succesful in the 2000’s, 90’s,70’s,60’s,50’s,40’s,30’s and 20’s, or is your nose too far up in the sky to be able to read that? I love how winning a division is a bad thing now if you don’t win the world series, ask your team if they would have preferred to win a pennant more recently than 1997, I think they would say “yes”. Your only world series since 1918 came thanks to a format change in 1994, don’t give me any sort of division Bulls-h-i-t.

To all other Redsox fans in this blog, let it be known I am simply defending myself from a fagan attack

gosoxred:

I think a lot of people are aiming really high when they think about a fifth starter for Boston. While it would be awesome to pick up a D-Train or a Z-man, I think it’s more likely that Theo will find someone a little farther down the list. Remember, they’re looking for a fourth or fifth man, not an ace. Whoever it is will likely get about 12 starts. If they can win half of them it would be great (Schilling has won 10 of his 19 starts, Beckett 11 of 18), but even 5 wins would be good for a fifth man’s second half. Nice to aim high, but I wouldn’t be surprised if whoever they pick up is someone most of us have never heard of (again).

Jesser775: Don’t insult someone for using the standard definition of 21st century (years from 2001-2100, see for example wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-first_century and no i didn’t edit it myself). The whole reason it is the 21st century as opposed to the 20th century is because historically our culture does not like to start with zero (there is no year between 1 BC and 1 AD), so the first century was the 100 years starting at 1 and going to 100AD, 2nd century is 101-200, etc until the 21st century 2001-2100.
The reason for no year zero has to do with the Romans not having a symbol for zero, so when they adopted Christianity and made the basis of our calendar they didn’t include a year zero. However, I want to add that you aren’t particularly wrong either as the 2000-2099 definition of century is becoming more acceptable (as alternate dating systems like astronomical dating systems which do include a year zero), but under our Gregorian calendar system you should use 2001-2100, especially if you are referring to the 21st century (as opposed to our current century).

Anyhow the point is small as your point is that Red Sox Yankees both equally successful in WS Championships from period 2000-2006, whereas Red Sox are more successful in WS Championships in 2001-2006. So you can say in the decade of the oughts (the 2000s as opposed to the 2010s, 1990s) yankees weren’t less successful than red sox, but someone else can say in the 21st century the red sox are more successful. (Note: decades do follow your scheme as people rarely (if ever) refer to our decade as the 201st decade).

Anyhow i think it is foolish of fans of the red sox (such as myself) or yankees to make any sort of conclusion that our performance in the first five/six years of the century are relevant predictor of how well we’ll do the rest. I mean looking at the first two decades of red sox vs. yankee championships, you would expect the 20th century to have 25 WS champions (we had five, yankees had zero in the first two decades, and multiply that by five to ‘predict’ expected century performance) and the yankees to have none.

Either way, if fagan really wants to argue the difference of one season, it does not make a difference, yankees still have more world series appearances, i agree with you though, to argue what is not even a complete decade is foolish. Your point of how the redsox should have had 25 to the yankees zero only further points out that if fagan wants to argue historial playoff appearances, than he might as well celebrate the uncanny and unparalleled consistancy the yankee franchise has shown with world series titles in every decade (we can agree on decade) except for the 1980’s, since the 1920’s. That is 80 years of success, compared to 80 years of a lack of it, and that is the bottom line. For as painful as it was the curse, the streak, the failing the unluckyness whatever u want to call it for redsox fans and their team, that was how long the yankees have been consistant and there is no reason to believe they will not continue this decade, let’s face it they are not the royals. It is an argument that unless you argue with solely emotion like Fagan does, it is not humanly possible to win when you are a redsox fan arguing a yankee fan, and i did not even bring it up.

I wouldn’t bring it up on a redsox blog because I am not here to bash them i am here to discuss them but sox blog yankee blog cubs blog whatever it is, I will not sit back and have somebody emotionally and innaccurately bash the yankees.

I have respect for you jed, ellen, gosoxred, kaylee, squid, blue, penguin, whoever else consistanly writes on this thing and I do not intend to insult any of you, I am simply arguing from the other point of view and in a defensive manor, just to clarify. haha I am sure sox red runs through each one of your veins (and nixon through ellens) in the same realm of passion as yankee pinstripes run through mine. That is the beauty of a rivalry and I am glad we at least have somebody worthy on the other end of ours.

Look at the cubs whitesox, it’s like beating up a toddler

Hey Nationers, Squid how you doin over there?? I was going to take the day off from the blog but I just looked in and I thought we all agreed to just start with a clean slate, you know , no “26 rings” no “we’ve won one this century and you haven’t”, no “bloody sock”. Let’s just play it from here on. Now is a really great time to start, we’re at the 1/2 way point for the year. Let’s just call it a day on all the old stuff (although I know how important it is to each team’s fans respectively, ((gee look at the base word there, RESPECT,)) ). Yanks and Sox fans are the luckiest in the world. We see our teams more often late in our seasons (which means more games and more opportunities to see them), than probably any other sports teams. We are back and forth arguably THE BEST in the world, any sport. So let’s just have a D.O. (for those of you who never played street ball, that’s a “do over”). Let’s see who can say at the end of the season that their team is the best.

I really expect a lot from Hansen and Delcarmen. They appear to be dominant lately. Hopefully our bullpen will be much more solid in the second half.

jesser: being down 0-2 isn’t the same as being down 0-3, where even the smallest mistake will end your season. being down 0-2 gives you a loss to fall back on.

and if you constantly have a $200+ million payroll (80 mil more than the sox) you should at least make the world series every year.

First of all down 0-2 in a world series when your headed on the road as opposed to having two games in a row at home down 0-3 is completely comparable. Esp when you consider the braves lead by 6 runs in one of those games, I believe game 4. Second of all that is probably the poorest argument you could possibly bring up. A: because you have the 2nd highest payroll so shouldn’t that mean you should at least win a division once in 9 years? 2nd, because this argument has been brought up many times on the other blog, ill just let mark explain it. Mark who is a giants fan btw.

“The payroll argument is such a farce. First of all, New York’s payroll this year went down, not up, and is under $200 million now.

Secondly, some of their biggest contracts were signed during the three-year period when salaries simply exploded. On the open market today, Jeter would get about $13 million, not $19 million. ARod would get about $16-18, not $25, and Mussina would get about $12, not $18.

On the same note, Ortiz would have gotten about $20 million per year had he signed his deal between 2000-02. He probably would have been in the Manny range.

The Yankees’ payroll will probably never be as high as it is right now. With these massive contracts starting to expire, starting with Bernie last year and Mussina this year, it’s only a matter of time before they’re back in the $150-160 million range.

Daniel, why do you find it necessary to attack people personally? What does that accomplish? Go back to Ian’s blog, where you seem to be a normal person.

Posted by: Mark | July 5, 2006 06:43 PM

oh what a surprise, fagan originally brought it up, grow up.

headed on the road for three games btw. As opposed to still having two at home and then having to win two on the road when the momentum is already in your favor.

I read some great news today–Jason Johnson was demoted to Single A.
Then I read some bad news- Jason Johnson was only demoted to Single A because AAA and AA are on their all star break and he will be back in the rotation after the break.

I’ve been reading about a Trot for Abreu deal that seems to be getting a lot of headlines lately. What does everyone feel about that possible deal and for those in Boston, what’s the consensus around town?

Ian,

The only thing I think you left out of your first half summary is the defense of the Sox. They closed out the first half with what must be the best fielding team the franchise has ever had, including setting the record for most consecutive games without an error. Summary: they committed 30 error, 11 fewer than the next best team, their FPCT of .991 is astounding. The 1999 Mets ended the season with 68 errors and a FPCT of .989, thats the mark to beat. The best Sox teams, the 1988 team that finished the season with 93 errors and a FPCT of .984 and the 1994 team that finished with 81 errors and a FPCT .981. Final note, they finished that 19 inning game without an error, so even their tired subs are fielding clean.

Gosox,
Not really sure what to think of those rumors. If it were a straight 1 for 1 deal, it would seem to be a wash. Abreu has a slightly higher SLG pct. (only 8 HR’s?!?) and doesn’t seem to have the power he’s had in recent years. Trot has a slightly higher average, but .293 for Abreu isn’t bad at all. The thing that is interesting is that Abreu has nearly 2 times as many walks, but also has 2 times as many strikeouts. anyway, he’s got a decent OBP at .447.

The thing is, I think the Sox may be exploring this deal because they see Abreu as shorter term deal than Nixon.

Abreu is having a down year and he’s certainly young enough to think that he’s not in a decline stage.

Personally, I wouldn’t understand why the Sox would do the deal unless they could get Abreu for Nixon and not much else…just doesn’t make much sense to me except to block a deal sending Abreu to the Yankees.

It would be nice to see if Theo could pry Scott Williamson from the Cubs. I always remember him as being a pretty reliable guy with good stuff.

You beat me to it, bluedaugg. I did a quick comparison of Nixon to Abreu, and Abreu is slightly ahead of Nixon in just about every category except strikeouts. But for most categories, the difference is not that great, and it’s only this year’s stats. One possibly significant career stat difference is in number of games played. They both started in the majors in 1996, and Abreu has played in 150+ games just about every year, whereas Nixon has a number of years when he played less than 130. That would seem to bolster the argument that many have about Nixon that he has injury problems. Personally, I agree that the trade would pretty much be a wash, and I wouldn’t see much point in it.

From an emotional standpoint, I’m a big Trot Nixon fan, so I’d prefer to see him stay with the Sox.

I was trying not to get into this conversation about history, but I just have to wonder why we all like to bring up what one “team” has done in the past. The reality is that in todays sports world the “team” changes just about year to year. I think of this whenever I hear an announcer mention that this team has owned this team in the past. Of course now there is probably a different set of players, manager and maybe even an owner. I think that a team and its fans being proud of their history is a great thing. But in reality all the championships or failures in the past does not have a whole lot to do with what is going to happen on the field today.

Yes the Yankees salary has gone down slightly (still fair to say $200 mil salary if you round to nearest $10mil, see below). But to put it in a reasonable perspective, while the Red Sox are 58% above the median mlb salary, Yankees are 151% above the median salary. [And this is prior to the luxury tax which last year was $34 mil to the Yankees last year and $4 mil to the Red Sox. However, if current salary roughly holds the Yankees will have to pay about $30 mil and the Red Sox none (as the 40% rate is for all salary over $136.5 mil in 2006. So really the Yankees are paying $230 (195% over the median) for their team compared to the Red Sox 58%].

The Yankees do have considerably more financial clout in getting the top big names in my opinion (e.g., ARod, Damon) than the Red Sox. The Damon thing pissed me off; if you look at Red Sox salaries, Damon’s RS offer was 4 yrs for $40, compared to NY 4 yrs for $52 mil. Our $10mil offer would have made Damon tied with Varitek for third highest salary (only beat by Manny & Schilling who are much more valuable to our club). However, NY’s $13mil a year offer only makes him tied for 6th highest salary and tied with Matsui (below Arod, Jeter, Giambi, Mussina (the four of whom are making more than Manny our top salary), & Johnson). It just didn’t make sense for us to pay that much (would have hurt the club in the future especially with the risk of injury). And by the way, when you lose a center fielder with a $12.6 mil contract (Bernie Williams) to pick up one for $13 mil you don’t save money. Even when counting all your outfield salaries both years it increased from $35.1 to $38.6mil (and the numbers were made pre-injuries so you can’t factor that in). The only part of your roster that has significantly decreased is pitching and that was largely due to the departure/retirement of Kevin Brown and his $15 mil.

Both clubs are trying to make money so its the Yankees & Red Sox decision if they want to spend the extra money. In my view (biased as I am a RS fan), I see the Red Sox over-spending as reasonable ($4 mil luxury tax payment) (especially to stay competitive with the Yankees), but the Yankees ($34 mil luxury tax) as egregious. But then again if the Yankee Stadium can hold more fans and earn more revenue and feels the need to spend it on the team and luxury tax than they should be able to. I mean baseball is a business, and I don’t think anyone wants to go back to the days where players were more more or less indentured servants to the teams that first signed them. Players should be able to get competitive value for what they are worth, just the Yankees (and to lesser extent Red Sox, Mets, etc.) are driving all the prices way up.

Also about Ortiz, I think his salary wouldn’t not have been a Arod/Jeter/Manny sized salary if this was 2002 or so. First, the Red Sox grabbed him and signed him for relatively cheap from the Twins when he only had 412 at bats (mostly as a DH) with a .272 average and 20 HR in 2002 coming off an hamate injury in 2001. At tht point he was not going to get a massive salary, but the Red Sox were smart and had options to keep him, and then renewed his contract to 2011 before he reached free agency (which he’ll agree to at a relatively lower salary to (a) get more money now, and (b) offset the potential risk of injury or sharp decline in production; e.g., guarantee ~$50 mil now is better than risk not getting injured to hold out for $70-80 mil at end of the year and trade teams). I don’t think the difference in Manny and Ortiz salaries is just based on the salary prices the deal was made). I mean in 2005-2006 an aging free agent Clemens (still great in NL) makes $22 mil a season (with offers of that much from at least four teams), so its not like top salaries have gone down significantly.

But anyways i disagree that Yankees salaries will be going down soon. I think very soon, NY will be picking up some expensive new players to replace the injured/incompetant. And next year after missing the post season this year (prediction is wild card going to the central and red sox winning east), the yankees will need to spend even more to try and buy their way to a world series next year.

2006 Salary Data:

1 Yankees $195,834,779

2 Red Sox $122,946,424

3 Cubs $104,596,908

4 White Sox $104,550,667

5 Dodgers $102,638,015

14 Tigers $82,612,866

15 Blue Jays $79,915,000

16 Orioles $76,160,582

29 Devil Rays $30,778,067

30 Marlins $14,982,500

Salary data from foxsports.com and usatoday.com

gosoxred: where did you read about the Trot/Abreu deal, da*mmit I sure don’t want to see that happen!! I just pray that it’s just speculation/rumor and not Gospel.
P.S. does anyone else think that Ryan Howard has been studying Papi’s swing, looks like he could be Papi’s other son!!!

Well I am watching the allstar
game after setting up my own blog!I hope gosoxred is joking

cuz I dont want to see trot leave!

-kaylee

couple points on the all star game: REd Sox might not of got any hits but either did most of the AL team till the 9th (Papi looked good fielding though): I love the fact that Young has become one of the best/most clutch Short Stops in the American League and the guy he replaced has becaome just a really good 3rd baseman (despite the MVP last year, A-Rod hasn’t really done anything when it counts): lastly and most importantly, What the #@$$ is Ozzie doing putting Mariano in in the bottom of the 9th, I’ll give him the greatest closer in MLB history, but he’s not this years greatest closer, and this is the 2006 All Star game not an all time All Star Game. Little Papi is getting screwed, I dislike Ozzie more and more everyday.

Squid,
They actually talked to Ozzie about the pitching situation for the game. He mentioned that he spoke with different managers and players to find out who was sore, tired, etc. Paps was kept out of the game because of the 2 innings he threw the other night. I don’t really mind the decision. In my opinion, any rest that we can get for our players at this point is a plus, even if that means we’ll have to wait to see Paps throw in the ASG next year.

Ozzie used the same thinking in deciding not to pick Schilling for the team; he saw that Curt would be pitching on the Sunday before the ASG, and didn’t think it made sense to carry a starter on the team who wouldn’t pitch. It was kind of lousy that Schilling didn’t get selected, but rest for a 39 year old starter is a good thing as well.

Guys,
About Trot and Abreu–Don’t forget that we have David Murphy at AAA…that means that a long term Trot deal would virtually lock him out of Fenway. Just something to keep in mind. The management has shown us in the past that loyalty to a player, ie: Nomar, is not something that they think about when making personnel decisions. I have a feeling that they think David Murphy will be ready to come up either in the 2nd half of next year or in 2008…so we’ll see how that works with Trot’s contract desires.

lol I sincerely hope that “buy their way to another world series” was a joke, or else it could be the biggest example of people in glass houses throwing stones ever.

Yankees on four world series winning roster from farm system (IE not “bought”)

1. Derek Jeter

2. Bernie Williams

3. Jorge Posada

4. Mariano Rivera

5. Ramiro Mendoza

All of them played essential roles, particularly Jeter williams and rivera in capturing all of those rings.

Players homegrown from 2004 redsox roster:

1. Trot Nixon (injured much of the season)

2. Doug Mirabelli (plays once a week/backup catcher)

3. Nomar Garciaparra (traded halfway through season)

Don’t believe i am missing anybody? Now what exactly were you saying about BUYING trips to the world series?

Clemens is one of the top 5 best pitchers ever, he hardly represents the market. Otherwise i respect your salary argument, but when you have to get into that much detail, the argument becomes kind of moot anyway. Doesn’t manny also make 20 mil a year? Mussina makes less than him i am almost 99% positive.

I also think jeter makes 18 a year, so he would be less too.

In response to the guillen picking Mo thing, I believe he also added that he picked him because he was unsure of how many more all star games rivera would be in. Yankee fans took offense but i almost understand what he meant to say. In addition, yes papelbon was part of a 19 inning marathon, i wouldn’t blame guillen. Not to mention, Mo set the all star game playoff record for saves, did u lose the game? No, so let it go.

Not to mention Ozzie seemed adament (perhaps for future reasons) about winning the game, perhaps he wanted somebody with a perfect all star record, rather than a young gun who would have his for the first time.

Not even going to address A rod being clutch issue, you would need to watch every single yankee game to understand but somehow games with 3 hrs 10 rbi where people would say oh wheres the game winner? are clutch to me. You dont drive in 140+ rbi without having clutch hits, esp when you consider he had one less “clutch” rbi than ortiz in 05. Now im not trying to make this a mvp debate again, all im saying is I don’t question ortiz in the clutch, I would appreciate if you didn’t try and question A rod as an mvp in the clutch and say things like “he hasn’t really done anything”. Not to mention he was robbed of a gold glove by chavez last year and chavez didnt even play the whole season, so to say hes good and young is great is also a little off, albeit this year i think they are both struggling, or at least a rod is

Ian,

The only thing I think you left out of your first half summary is the defense of the Sox. They closed out the first half with what must be the best fielding team the franchise has ever had, including setting the record for most consecutive games without an error. Summary: they committed 30 error, 11 fewer than the next best team, their FPCT of .991 is astounding. The 1999 Mets ended the season with 68 errors and a FPCT of .989, thats the mark to beat. The best Sox teams, the 1988 team that finished the season with 93 errors and a FPCT of .984 and the 1994 team that finished with 81 errors and a FPCT .981. Final note, they finished that 19 inning game without an error, so even their tired subs are fielding clean.

Posted by: seanmurphy_40@msn.com | July 11, 2006 01:31 PM

Gosox,

FEAR NOT: ON Wednesday, you will see an entire story focusing on the Red Sox stellar defense in the first half.

Blue, thanks for that, didn’t see Ozzie’s comments, he obviously put more thought into than I gave him credit for, Jesser-Your right I haven’t watched every Yankee game, but pretty close (the yankee game is always on my gameday when i have the sox on my MLB TV) not to mention I have worked the last 6 months with 3 very adamant(sp) Yankees fans and haven’t gone a day without discussing (if your not from the North East you’d probably call it arguing) Every aspect of the 2 teams, I don’t make my comments off the cuff, and have had my opinions conceded by the before mentioned Yankees fans, but in the end it’s just my opinion…the other 2, Yeah it might be Mo’s last ASG, and he has been great, but I refer to my 2006 ASG not All time ASG comment, Pap’s having a better year(although I do agree with the rest thing, so I’m not complaining quite as hard as i was) and young is a great S.S. I’ve watched him many times, and he has never disapointed, especially with the shoes he had to fill. The A-Rod being “good” might of been a cheap shot but i was bitter about Pap and happy to see Young give, whoever it is (I say Red Sox) Home Field in the WS.

Ellen, to answer your question, I read the Trot/Abreu rumor on Fox Sports the other day. I haven’t heard much else on it since, so who knows what will happen?

The RedSox as a team r struggling against the lefty pitchers.

Manny’s production has dropped dramatically over the last 2 years against lefties.

Nixon struggles against lefties and Ortiz being a lefty can’t dominate the lefties as he does the righties.

Considering the issues against left handed pitching Abreau for Nixon makes sense. May Abreau is a better hitter against lefties.

By the way RedSox are 13-14 against lefties and 40-19 so far this season.

Some of the lefties who dominated redsox recently include Kazmir, Lily and RJ(5-0 last year vs RedSox).

Manny is batting .244 vs Lefties and .332 vs Righties.

Abreau Vs Nixon

ABreau – .333 Vs Lefties and .273 vs Righties

Nixon – .227 Vs Lefties and .338 vs Righties

We stink against good lefties… period. I certainly wouldn’t be jumping for joy if we dealt Nixon for Abreu, but it would make sense. Abreu has a bigger upside… we also wouldn’t need to platoon him like we do with Trot. Less injury prone, more speed, etc.

Referring back to the salary issue for a little bit, the biggest thing it impacts is the parody, or lack thereof in the league. Since there is no cap, any team can pay anyone as much as they want.
Plain and simple. The Yankees figured out long ago that by opening the wallets, the better players will come. Every fan would wish their team to do the same exact thing.

By doing so, free agency is affected because who in their right mind would go play in KC when they could go play in Boston, NY or St. Louis for the same amount of money? I used to use the “buying your champoinship” theory but when it comes down to it, the only person/thing to blame is Major League Baseball itself.

If there was a cap in the league, Damon would probably have stayed with the Sox because Boston and NY would probably been close to the same dollar amount in salary.

Because NY could offer more, Damon showed his true classless colors when he took the extra $12 million. I loved him as a player for the team and respect the **** out of him for playing through the injuries while he was here and for fighting through the injuries he has this year, but bottom line is that he is just a greedy person. Like that extra $12 million is going to affect his lifestyle.

What it’s going to take is someone to take a chance like Ivan Rodriguez (I will never call him pudge..there is only one Pudge and how can someone self proclaim his own nickname that someone else from 2 decades ago had???)

He looked like an idiot for going to Detroit because they were a laughing stock when he signed. But, with a young staff and the emergance of a few hitters they are now the best team record wise in the league. (He did just sign for the money and got lucky that the team had so many young studs. Nobody wanted to pay him because they thought he was getting too old. I guess he proved a lot of people wrong in that aspect with the all-star game votes). I guarantee you that a lot of free agents in the offseason will look to Detroit just as hard as Boston and NY now. And because of their success, Detroit will be able to pony up with a few extra mil from their run this year.

Either way, in this day and age, a player is going to go where the money is. Has anyone ever believed a player when he said “It wasn’t about the money?” when they signed. And if MLB is going to allow teams to overpay for players, than it will continue to happen.

All that dribble I just spewed out aside, I still love this game and can’t wait for another 12 game streak to start the 2nd half!

Gosoxred:

I am not talking about Damon or anybody in particular. But how can you blame them for going where the money is. Loyalty is two way street. After what happened to Nomar, Pedro and Lowe why would any player have loyalty to redsox or any other team. Its the same issue with how the yankees handled Pettitte, the white sox dealt with Frank Thomas etc.

All this rivalry and stuff is just for us fans. Not for players. They are just doing their job. Otherwise, how can you explain somebody who was a diehard yankee fan growing up, play for redsox or vice versa. They just go where the money is. Similarly, the money goes where the talent is.

To be brutally frank, atleast 99% of the players are just mercenaries. The other 1% or less are soldiers.

Its absolutely true players fo for the green, and it isn’t just baseball. Ben Wallace left the Pistons for an extra 12 mil, even though the Pistons are better than the Bulls, and that brings me to my point. Why the **** do you need and extra 12 mil when you A) are already gonna make 40 mil and B) you already got a **** load of money in the bank.

I’m not saying to **** with Damon (even though he should be condemmed) Pedro, and Lowe because it wasn’t all their fault. For Pedro the FO spent so much time on Schilling and basicly told him to wait until the offseason for an extention and they didn’t think Lowe was worth 9 mil a year. But Damon I don’t get. He said he couldn’t even play for the Yanks even for top dollar. (so yeah, I do blame him)

Its absolutely true players fo for the green, and it isn’t just baseball. Ben Wallace left the Pistons for an extra 12 mil, even though the Pistons are better than the Bulls, and that brings me to my point. Why the **** do you need and extra 12 mil when you A) are already gonna make 40 mil and B) you already got a bunch of money in the bank.

I’m not saying to **** with Damon (even though he should be condemmed) Pedro, and Lowe because it wasn’t all their fault. For Pedro the FO spent so much time on Schilling and basicly told him to wait until the offseason for an extention and they didn’t think Lowe was worth 9 mil a year. But Damon I don’t get. He said he couldn’t even play for the Yanks even for top dollar. (so yeah, I do blame him)

my bad

All i have to say is it’s easy for the common man to make a statement like that, but why don’t you see 12 million dollars that could be yours on paper then try and proclaim you would ignore it to wear one uniform over the other. When you’re in a profession where you are talking about being worth millions, to not be offered what you feel you deserved is a cheap shot at you, I think that was more Damon’s issue, yes it is money, yes the yankees have more if it, but the fact the redsox made one offer complete market value and nothing else was I think what changed the mood a little for him in beantown.

//Why the **** do you need and extra 12 mil when you A) are already gonna make 40 mil and B) you already got a **** load of money in the bank
//

A) 12 mil is 30% of 40 mil Boston offered. Are you telling me you would pass on a 30% pay rise. Even if you did, If it was just 12 mil for Damon, so is the case for redsox too. Whats 12 more mil over 4 yrs? Damon thought he was worth more than 40 mil and redsox didn’t. He did not make any concessions. Neither did the redsox. Which makes it “Just Business”. You sell yourself for the highest offer.

B) If he thought he had enough money, why would he even play. Why are Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, all the hollywood stars that already made it still working to make more money.

Point is you never have enough money.

Let’s all start focusing on the second half beginning tonight. We are at home against one of the worst righthanded, starting pitchers in the league – Esteban Loiza 6.43 ERA. It would be really nice to set the tone by battering him and their bullpen.

As for the Damon argument, I like the one sign that got some airtime during one of our series… “Looked like Jesus, Acted like Judas, Throws like Mary.”

It’s so true that no money is never enough, unfortunately for us common folks it’s hard to rationalize a player that makes that much in salary (never mind the endorsement deals). It’s true about the home town loyalty deal. I personally think the Sox hurt themselves by trading Bronson. Not so much for the fact that they traded him, because it seemed like a good deal at the time. But the fact that he chose loyalty and signed a lowball deal and then got traded. That might make others think twice about signing a lower end contract with not just the Sox, but other clubs in the longrun, therefore increasing the amount of free agent contracts.

Anyway, Lester gets the call tonight. Again, hope he keeps his walk to a minimum. He keeps flirting with disaster with his 3 ball counts and walks. I watched the Chicago game on Friday night and kept waiting for the other shoe to drop, so to speak, and he held them in check when it counted. I’d like to see the performance he could put out if was around the strike zone more. I don’t think he had a 1,2,3 until the 6th. He is tough, though.

Loiza has an ERA over 6, but just ask Carlos Silva what that means. Nothing, he shut us down in Minnesota with that ERA last time.

Big weekend, not only because of the slim 3 game lead but because it will be nice to see how Lester does, how Schilling’s elbow is after getting hit last week and how Wakefield pitches with his back problem.

Saw they are bringing Kyle Snyder up to throw against KC. I said a few weeks ago that I hoped they would do that. Journeyman pitching for a 1st place club against the last place club that gave up on him…Should be interesting.

So Jason Johnson is getting rave reviews because he went down to Single A and pitched 7 innings and gave up 4 runs and 10 hits. Sure they sugar coat it by saying some of the hits were dribblers and he got 15 ground ball outs and broke three bats. But come on, he struck out one guy and still gave up 4 runs. Good thing he didn’t cost us much.

On a side note, technician coming to my house tonight so I might finally be up and running from my home computer. Hope to see you all tonight during the game.

gsr: hope that you get your computer back tonight (or really really soon!), I remember last year when I only used gameday (due to dsl) and lost my computer. Heell hath no fury like a redsox fan without the ability to see or hear the game, at least that’s what my husband said!!!
Anyway, I agree with you reagrding Lester, he does seem to flirt with disaster, that makes me very nervous. I think he’s going to be a really good pitcher as soon as he gets more games under his belt, you know, he’ll be more “seasoned”.

I’m glad that the Yanks are playing the “other sox”, that’s another good series. I certainly hope the WSox play them like they played us Sunday, although I wouldn’t wish a 19 inning game on anyone, OR WOULD I??? sure I would, but only the Yanks (joking).

This is fresh start, clean slate time. HERE’S TO A GREAT 2ND HALF!!!

LET’S GO REDSOX, LET’S GO!!!

Oh a BIG P.S.>> I hope that VTEK has a really good 2nd half, I was going to say “Back End” instead of 2nd half but then that would’ve sounded sexist, huh???

LET’S GO REDSOX, LET’S GO!!!

kaylee,daniel:where are you guys?? daniel i know you were over on marks blog today(or last night) I miss you guys come out and talk!!

I HAVE A NOTHER HUGE P.S.>>

IAN, FROM ME TO YOU AND YOUR LIPS TO THEO AND TITO’S EARS: PLEASE DON’T TRADE TROT!!!

Up and running at home finally! You’re right Ellen. Luckily I have the baseball package, but the Tampa games were blacked out last week and I didn’t get to see much. Anyway, what’s the whether like up there today?
I checked on Boston.com and it looked like 70% chance of rain. The last thing this team needs is another rainout only to be followed by a double header. Next week is the make up game vs. Texas on what was supposed to be the Sox day off, I believe.

I’ve been getting ancy going 3 days without a Sox game to watch and it would **** to have tonight rained out.

Go Sox

The weather here in Lauderdale shucks today and yesterday and so on and so on… Whenever I need to get the forcast for the Sox I log onto NOAA.GOV and search Boston. That’s the National Weather Service.
I can’t imagine where we would schedule a rainout at this point, with all we’ve had prior to now, we can’t have all that many compatible (sp) days off.

Withdrawl symptoms (RSCD: Redsox Compulsive Disorder)have been setting in for me as well, so I’m hyped for tonights game!! Dang, 1 day off is too much, never mind 3. How much do we know about the pitcher thats vs Lester tonight??

By the way, I’m beginning (as is my husband) to believe that RSCD is really a disease. Can you live without them??, I CAN’T!! :)

PS… did Ian put in a request for three days off??, the official request form never crossed my desk, how ’bout yours????

ps again: See Ian, I told you that you need an assistant!!

Oh happy day!! Guess what game is on ESPN Thursday Night Baseball? Woo-hooooo!! Gotta go, I have a game to watch.

GO SOX!!

Hey Guys,
Lester lets take these A’s down.

GO SOX

-kaylee

AAAHHH!!! It’s been a long 3 days; but basebal is back and AFN is playing the game, YEAH ME. First time I’ve got to see Lester on TV (not in MLB TV Slide Show) He Looks strong in the strike Zone but sems to miss on his puropose/chace pitches, still after one inning (not much to base it on) I have to agrre with Ellen’s “seasoning” comment, he can only get better.

make that purpose/chase, I’m getting a “F” for grammar

Man, I was really hoping Lester could keep his pitch count down tonight. 2 walks already and almost 50 pitches. He just walked a guy hitting .091.
One these days it’s going to come back to hurt him.

Let’s hope not tonight.

Time to jump on Loaiza and his 6+ ERA.

Watching him now, he’s deffinatley young, but I can see what all the Hype is about, He’s going to have to sure up some of those pitches soon, missing those outside pitches will hurt in september, not to mention the playoffs

This is one of my lopsided games on paper I have ever seen. Loiza on the mound and the worst hitting team behind him… minus Chavez. We really should destroy these guys. Lester is very frustrating to watch right now. He seems to wiggle out of jams at least. Did everyone see how much Big Papi hustled when he hit that ground rule double? He was really thinking there… if it didn’t bounce into the stands, it could have been a single, double, or maybe even a triple. He should tutor Manny some time.

I agree about the frustration watching this. It doesn’t seem Lester can go 1,2,3 in an inning. I’m sure he’ll come around with experience, but this team has 2 guys hitting over .280. He should just go right at them.
80 pitches already and he’s only pitched 3+.

This kid gets more double plays than anyone I’ve ever seen. 2 already tonight. He is the most confusing pitcher I’ve ever watched and he’s only pitched 7 games.
Can’t get a 1,2,3 inning, walks about 1 an inning, has a high pitch count….yet he doesn’t give up many runs.

How is this possible?? Unbelievable.

By the way, that hit by Tek on the hit and run might be just what he needed to get out of his slump. It would have been a DP ball, but the 2nd baseman was moving, so let’s keep our hopes up so that helps him get out of his funk.

Another phantom outside strike call by the jokers we call umps. Robbed Ortiz of a hardworking at bat and killed a rally. That was about 6 inches outside and low.

Lester should be lobbing up batting practice fastballs right down the middle against these guys… Especially guys batting under .092.

GSR, dead on, frustrating is the exact feeling i got right now. I’m praising Theo for getting us this D. Still he’s showing moments of brilliance, It’s frustrating and i’m on the edge of my seat every at bat, but I get the feeling this kid will be great…Rayman, Umps have been horrible all year on the strike calls, at least there consistant, they usually **** for both teams

Nice inning by Hansen. He looked in complete control up there.

Boy, Youk is really struggling at the plate.

Frustrating game so far. To only have 3 runs against Loaiza and have 11 stranded runners isn’t a good sign when Zito is throwing tomorrow. Not a good sign when a guy hitting .089 leads off with a hit. Let’s see what Delcarmen can do. He’s been getting ahead in the count lately and looking good. These are the A’s 2 biggest threats coming up in THomas and Payton, so let’s see.

Delcarmen looked good and did his job. Loretta just took his eye off the ball. Can’t really complain when you consider how good the defense has been all year so let’s just hope the bats realize that they are playing the A’s and come alive.

Time for Youk to snap out of his rut with a lead off hit to start a rally. Then Loretta can make up for his error with a big hit and Mr. Clutch can drive them both in.

Or not.

Here’s a question. Does Tito pinch hit for Tek in the 9th?
The guy is struggling big time, he just caught a 19 inning game and if they don’t score, we’re looking at another extra inning affair.

I think Willie Harris just signed his own ticket back to AAA or his outright release.
Lead off walk and he’s brought in to pinch run and he gets picked off. Unreal!

i am on gameday can someone tell me why harris was Stealing there?He got caught.
-kaylee

I agree he should not of stole there.
-kaylee

Yep, I believe we have finally seen the end of the Willie Harris era. Whew, good riddance. Missed sign, pick off, terrible hitter. Time to dump this loser.

We are in extras now again.Lets not have 19 innings again tho.
-kaylee

Now harris will be the guy to leave whenn willy mo pena comes back if not sooner.
-kaylee

Kaylee,
Willie wasn’t stealing, he got caught sleeping out there or something. When the pitcher threw over he just froze and then got caught in the rundown. Terrible play!

Bluedaugg,
okay thank you for clarify that I didnt think he would be told to steal.

-kayleee

Tavarez pitching in the 11th, talk about edge of your seat excitment, If saenez comes in I’m put 911 on alert

I agree Squid.WE dont need seanez Tavarez dont give this up.
-kaylee

Who is left in the pen is it just seanez?
-kaylee

#%$& &^*# @#%^^&!!!!!!!!! What else is there to say

well squid we wont see SEANEZ that is the only good thing.
-kaylee

This isn’t good for my heart

Absolutely pathetic

mental errors and rsty bats, no more three day breaks please

Squid-and DAniel-I agree.Lets go get em tommorrow!
-kaylee

That was one of the worst performances of the year… lousy clutch hitting, bad defense, bad base running, and yet another extra inning loss… at home, against one of the worst teams in the league. It’s hard to keep saying its just one game, its a long season, etc.

You wrote: “This team still does not have a fifth starter. Jason Johnson? Come on. I don’t think that is going to work.”

Amen! I’m glad you agree. So why is Terry still using him? Why did they bring him back up? Seems to me every time he starts is a guaranteed loss, and we can’t afford to lose 20% of the remaining games with the division and wild card as close as they are!

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